>> congress needs to leave the issue alone and provide increased access to healthcare for women. you know, wanting to cut funding for planned parenthood, for example, when everybody knows that planned parenthood provides a number of other services, in addition to access to abortion. but if you really want to limit abortion then provide access to bit control. >> john: amen. you know what, i'll add on to that the republicans control the white house and the house and senate under george bush. they could have defunded planned parenthood before breakfast. they never wanted to. karen bass, heroic democrat of california, thank you so much for your time tonight. >> thanks for having me on. >> john: come back and see us again. >> ok. >> john: for more than the 40th anniversary of roe v. wade, i'm proud to bring on terry o'neill, president of the national organization for women and staff right writer for salon, erin carmen. terri, you wrote today we're at a critical turning point where abortion rights are concerned because of actions by conservative legislators on the state level. so how d